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Re: Interior Floor / Insulation [message #156473] Thu, 12 January 2012 14:09 Go to next message
bryant374 is currently offline  bryant374   United States
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Based on the records I have, 1" polyurethane floor insulation, floor structure & 3/4" treated plywood floor became available for model year 1975 (production after mid Dec. 1974) with some qualifiers:

Floor Insulation was aparently standard on 1975 and later GMC Motorhome interiors and an option "BRQ" on Transmodes.

1975 Transmodes show option "BRQ Insulation, floor pan" on the glove box sticker. Later Transmode production "Glove Box" identification seems spotty, In 1978 it became standard for all GMC models (along with a number of options that became standard that year, part of the reason the base price increased).

Floor insulation as an option shows up on the 1977 Transmode pricing as $95.00.

If any of you find an exception, for example glove Box sticker does not match option, to the above I would very much like feedback so that we may get the best record possible.
Thanks,
Bill


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Re: [GMCnet] Interior Floor / Insulation [message #156485 is a reply to message #156473] Thu, 12 January 2012 14:48 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Greg and April is currently offline  Greg and April   United States
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Does anyone have a picture of the floor insulation sandwich?
.

Greg H.

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to keep me company.

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>
>
> Based on the records I have, 1" polyurethane floor insulation, floor
> structure & 3/4" treated plywood floor became available for model year
> 1975 with some qualifiers:
>
> Floor Insulation was aparently standard on 1975 and later GMC Motorhome
> interiors and an option "BRQ" on Transmodes.
>
> 1975 Transmodes show option "BRQ Insulation, floor pan" on the glove box
> sticker. Later Transmode production "Glove Box" identification seems
> spotty, In 1978 it became standard for all GMC models (along with a number
> of options that became standard that year, part of the reason the base
> price increased).
>
> Floor insulation as an option shows up on the 1977 Transmode pricing as
> $95.00.
>
> If any of you find an exception, for example glove Box sticker does not
> match option, to the above I would very much like feedback so that we may
> get the best record possible.
> Thanks,
> Bill
> --
> Bill Bryant
> 1976~PB
> 1914 Ford
> 1965 Corvette
> GMC MH History CD
> GMC Showroom Films DVD
> http://bdub.net/billbryant/

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Re: [GMCnet] Interior Floor / Insulation [message #156496 is a reply to message #156485] Thu, 12 January 2012 16:01 Go to previous messageGo to next message
noi is currently offline  noi   United States
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Greg - Some pictures you may find of interest.

http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/showgallery.php?cat=5986

Carl P.
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South of Fremont
Re: [GMCnet] Interior Floor / Insulation [message #156497 is a reply to message #156496] Thu, 12 January 2012 16:18 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Greg and April is currently offline  Greg and April   United States
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Thank you.
.

Greg H.

I don't just march to the beat of my own drum - I have an entire brass band
to keep me company.

.
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> Greg - Some pictures you may find of interest.
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> http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/showgallery.php?cat=5986
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Re: [GMCnet] Interior Floor / Insulation [message #156519 is a reply to message #156496] Thu, 12 January 2012 19:34 Go to previous messageGo to next message
USAussie is currently offline  USAussie   United States
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Carl,

From the photos it looks like the floor above the mufflers was insulated but the rest wasn't?

What is the insulation material you used?

Did you glue it to the bottom of the plywood?

Did you glue the sheet metal to the bottom of the insulation material?

If yes what glue did you use?

Regards,
Rob M.

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Greg - Some pictures you may find of interest.

http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/showgallery.php?cat=5986

Carl

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Re: Interior Floor / Insulation [message #156534 is a reply to message #156473] Thu, 12 January 2012 21:20 Go to previous messageGo to next message
midlf is currently offline  midlf   United States
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bryant374 wrote on Thu, 12 January 2012 14:09


Floor Insulation was aparently standard on 1975 and later GMC Motorhome interiors and an option "BRQ" on Transmodes.

1975 Transmodes show option "BRQ Insulation, floor pan" on the glove box sticker.



Yep - that matches my transmode. See the sticker here:

http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/showphoto.php?photo=29750


Steve Southworth
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Re: [GMCnet] Interior Floor / Insulation [message #156544 is a reply to message #156519] Thu, 12 January 2012 22:41 Go to previous messageGo to next message
noi is currently offline  noi   United States
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Rob:

Sorry for the confusion – I just grabbed a bunch of “insulation” pictures out of my restoration progress folder so that Greg would get a better idea of what the insulation looked like under the plywood – So to answer your questions directly….

“From the photos it looks like the floor above the mufflers was insulated but the rest wasn't?”

Nope, every “bay” had foam insulation in it – Again, pictures were just grabbed quickly and sorta out of order – But in a nut shell it was…. Aluminum sheet (bottom), foam sheet/spray foam (middle), plywood flooring (top).

The foam over the muffler area appeared to be “sprayed” in as it stuck to the plywood and aluminum sheeting – I had to peel the aluminum off and then scrap the foam off the plywood – I think the reason for this is that the “well” for the hold down clamp was in that area and it was quicker to spray it in rather than cut the foam out – In this picture you can see the ‘well”, partially pulled up aluminum sheeting, and signs of foam “squeeze out” around the edges:

http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/showphoto.php?photo=42231&title=1112&cat=5986

The rest of the bays were aluminum/foam sheet/plywood:

http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/showphoto.php?photo=42241&title=424&cat=5986

“What is the insulation material you used?”

Pictures are of progress to date – I am a ways away from needing to insulate, but will most likely use Owens Corning Foamular – Can get it locally and has pretty good r-value ( space for about 1.5”=r-7)

“Did you glue the sheet metal to the bottom of the insulation material?”
“If yes what glue did you use?”

I plan to glue the foam insulation to the aluminum, but haven’t decided what adhesive to use – Most likely I will use a 3m high performance contact adhesive.

Hope this answers your questions,

Carl P.
76 Birchaven
South of Fremont
Re: [GMCnet] Interior Floor / Insulation [message #156552 is a reply to message #156544] Fri, 13 January 2012 00:33 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Carl,

Thanks, it makes sense now.

Regards,
Rob M.


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Re: [GMCnet] Interior Floor / Insulation [message #357534 is a reply to message #156552] Fri, 07 August 2020 07:11 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Sorry to revive an old post, but I am currently replacing the floors in my 73 and have found it difficult to get 1” marine grade plywood (what it has originally) locally.

So I’m interested in “upgrading” to the later floor style.

Anyone have details on what gauge aluminum sheet was used? Are my aluminum floor supports different? They look like they might have bigger flanges but I’m not sure.
Re: [GMCnet] Interior Floor / Insulation [message #357537 is a reply to message #357534] Fri, 07 August 2020 08:37 Go to previous messageGo to next message
mghamms is currently offline  mghamms   United States
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Whenever I look at the pictures of the insulation I always amazed at the low quality of the GM work.
The GM penny pinchers always seem to win. Quality looses. And they get bailed out.


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Re: [GMCnet] Interior Floor / Insulation [message #357539 is a reply to message #357537] Fri, 07 August 2020 09:06 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I think that the foam was blown in for noise abatement, to keep the
aluminum from drumming. They were successful with that. The minor
insulation value was a secondary benefit.

bdub

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> Whenever I look at the pictures of the insulation I always amazed at the
> low quality of the GM work.
> The GM penny pinchers always seem to win. Quality looses. And they get
> bailed out.
> --
> 1977 Kingsley 455 as stock as it gets except lots of Ragusa parts
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Re: [GMCnet] Interior Floor / Insulation [message #357562 is a reply to message #357534] Fri, 07 August 2020 20:41 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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There are few drawbacks and a number of advantages to laminating two layers of plywood together to build up floor panels of sufficient thickness. If you've ever seen the common rot underneath the GMC cockpit windows you'll know that the "marine plywood" did not like water at all. Treated plywood with a coating of epoxy resin, or at least a couple of coats of oil-based paint, on all sides and surfaces before installation of the floor panels would last well into subsequent ownerships.

Richard


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Re: [GMCnet] Interior Floor / Insulation [message #357563 is a reply to message #156496] Fri, 07 August 2020 21:06 Go to previous message
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noi wrote on Thu, 12 January 2012 14:01
Greg - Some pictures you may find of interest.

http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/showgallery.php?cat=5986

Carl P.
76 Birchaven
South of Fremont
Interesting pictures but hate that website image navigation design. Any chance you have a link to images showing the upper cab flooring in detail? I need to replace the passenger floor because of water damage and need to know what I am getting into.


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